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Renee Guth
July 25th, 2006 @6:55 pm  

Thanks, so much!

Union with Christ, holy humility, and less Amero-centric for the sake of the gospel are goals worthy of our lives.

Dick Moore
July 29th, 2006 @8:25 pm  

Michael, Thanks for your inspired leadership both before and after the GA. I particularly appreciate your comments that unity in the whole body of Christ is not just unity (often false) within the organization of the PCUSA. Those of us who are in honest disagreement with the direction of the PCUSA are not breaking unity with the body of Christ even if we have to conclude that we can no longer be part of that body. This a marvelous opportunity for the PCUSA to live up the the concepts of justice and peacemaking which have been sounded ceaselessly since the establishment of the denomination. The PCUSA has no credibility telling the President how to make peace in the Middle East when the PCUSA cannot make peace within its own constituency. A start would be official recognition that if we can not find peace and unity, let alone purity, within the existing denomination, then we should be able to separate amicably and gracefully and not amid accusations of “breaking unity in the body of Christ.” The peacemaking PCUSA should make an urgent priority making peace with all sister Presbyterian/Reformed denominations in the USA.

John Haley
August 2nd, 2006 @6:48 pm  

Michael, I read your speech and found it to be very helpful and clarified the issues before the 217th GA. However, your conclusions seem muddled. Am I correct in my understanding that what you believe is that we should just “keep on keeping on?” How is this different from what we have been doing for 30 years? Many of us have been ignoring the GA and it’s strange pronouncements while we get on with the business of the Kingdom for years. Do you think this is a proper state of affairs for our church?

What are you proposing that is different?

What makes us believe that things will get better other than pure blind faith? (Which is not all bad, but certainly not very pragmatic.)

It seems to me that we have come to the point where everyone has heard all the arguments on each side and no one is convinced by the other side’s rhetoric. We have stopped listening to each other. It seems to me that the time has come for gracious separation so that both sides can get on with their work as they see it instead of all this internal squabbling and fussing. It seems to me that we would all be freer to be faithful if we did not spend all this time and energy on feuding and trying to put duct tape on a house that has been severely damaged by a storm.

I hate to see the PCUSA split, but I can think of very few good reasons to try to keep it together any longer just for appearances sake. I pray that you will be able to give me some good reasons.

This is important because our Session is struggling with the issue and we need to be sure we understand all the issues and ramifications.

Blessings,

John Haley
Elder

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